“People think I take some sort of masochistic pleasure out of putting out music that's gonna be unpopular.”
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One thing I've learned to appreciate as I've gotten a little older is direct forms of communication.
I did 13-something years of talking to wrestlers and promoters about why they did certain things and why they booked matches a certain way and what they were thinking and whether they were satisfied with the draw. And I got a lot of insight in the business.
Calm, open debate, and logical thought drive strength to its maximum effectiveness.
Most of my arguments with musicians through the years have had more to do with their attitude about music, or their attitude about their own lives, or their personal responsibility. Music has never really been the big centerpiece of the fight.